Lots of British actors have really nailed their American accents, but Americans can't seem to imitate their peers across the pond. We spoke with Erik Singer, a dialect coach based in New York, to find out why British actors appear to be so much more skillful when it comes to accents and dialect on the big screen.

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by Anonymousreply 44December 19, 2018 10:28 PM

CELEBRITIES ATTEMPTING BRITISH ACCENTS on The Graham Norton Show

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by Anonymousreply 1December 6, 2018 12:43 AM

Michael C Hall in whatever that miniseries he did last year was called. Painful, despite some DL fans posting "I come from Hertfordshire and he sounded like a native". No, he didn't, and it was obvious listening to recite dialog with the rest of the cast.

by Anonymousreply 2December 6, 2018 12:46 AM

They don't all suck at English accents. What sucks is when the accent comes and goes...that looks stupid.

by Anonymousreply 3December 6, 2018 12:48 AM

Winslet's accent in Titanic wasn't great it was ok

by Anonymousreply 4December 6, 2018 12:48 AM

If you watch British tv, all the American accents are terrible.

by Anonymousreply 5December 6, 2018 12:48 AM

American Actors Suck At Acting

by Anonymousreply 6December 6, 2018 12:48 AM

Because the British accent is completely fake and manufactured. They used to sound like Americans until wealthy people wanted to distinguish themselves from commoners. It's the more natural way to speak English.

by Anonymousreply 7December 6, 2018 12:51 AM

Don't you need a forked tongue to speak with a proper English accent? Most Americans have regular one-prong tongues. It's a real disadvantage for them.

by Anonymousreply 8December 6, 2018 12:53 AM

r7 British people used to sound like Americans? And here I thought England/Britain was first in the timeline. I have been lied to by every history book, every monument and every person that ever told me otherwise.

Why Britons would go through the trouble to manufacture an entire history complete with a "fake" and "manufactured" accent is beyond me.

Britons must be a deeply insecure people, who despite having all the wealth and power in the world, are still miserable, ignorant, violent and unhappy....although I could be confusing my countries/peoples.

I think I might learn to speak English properly one day, I think I shall start with the Noah Webster kid's dictionary.

by Anonymousreply 9December 6, 2018 3:05 AM

For the love of god please don’t drag Dick Van Dyke into this debate yet again. He was playing a chimney sweep in a Disney children’s musical where he sang with a nanny who flies and danced with animated penguins! Those who were expecting documentary-like Cockney authenticity are just impossibly ludicrous.

by Anonymousreply 10December 6, 2018 3:38 AM

Aussies nail the American accent better than any.

by Anonymousreply 11December 6, 2018 3:41 AM

R9 the brits moved to non-rhotic speak st the end of the 1700’s as it became fashionable in the upper class and nouveau riche

by Anonymousreply 12December 6, 2018 3:53 AM

R12 That's just revisionism and misinformation. The Southwest of England still speak with rhoticism. Before there was ever an "America".

by Anonymousreply 13December 6, 2018 7:40 AM

Paul Dano's British accent kicked ass in BBC's recent "War and Peace". The Brits thought he was a new local boy.

by Anonymousreply 14December 6, 2018 8:49 AM

r13, I think you misunderstood r12. He seemed to be saying that all British people were rhotic at one time. Then in the 17th century it became unfashionable (maybe with German people on the throne), so at least the upper classes, and probably a lot of wannabees among the common people lost their final "r"s. But there were pockets of Britain that retained those final "r"s, such as Cornwall (if that is the part of Southwest Britain to which you're referring).

by Anonymousreply 15December 6, 2018 9:17 AM

I watch quite a few British comedies and cop shows, and the American accents are uniformly terrible. The Australian ones, too. I think there are only a few British actors who are really good at it, and they probably work really hard at it because it opens up more opportunities for them to work in America and maybe other countries as well.

That's not to say Americans are good at British accents, because every once in awhile they do okay, usually by adopting more of a Mid-Atlantic accent, but most of the time Americans are pretty dire about foreign accents.

by Anonymousreply 16December 6, 2018 9:19 AM

Since OP neglected to reveal the youtube clip's contents, forcing us all to watch a seperate video to know what OP is talking about, can someone please summarize what the expert said? Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 17December 6, 2018 9:25 AM

Well, I sez to Mable, I sez "Rhotic." And she says "Rhoda?" And I sez "Rhotic! Rhotic!" and Mabel sez, "I don't know anybody named "Rhotic."

by Anonymousreply 18December 6, 2018 9:52 AM

I work with a lot of Brits who agree René Z. pulled of an almost perfect accent in Bridget Jones. Likewise with James Marsters (Spike) on Buffy.

Hugh Laurie and Rachel Griffiths (Brit and Aussie) are really good with their America accents on House and Six Feet Under.

by Anonymousreply 19December 6, 2018 10:00 AM

[quote]Hugh Laurie and Rachel Griffiths (Brit and Aussie) are really good with their America accents on House and Six Feet Under.

Rachel's was fantastic - one time though they had an Aussie guy on SFU and she started talking like him.

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by Anonymousreply 20December 6, 2018 10:40 AM

^^ oops, Ruth Wilson's American accent is excellent. I did not know whether she was American or English, in fact.

by Anonymousreply 21December 6, 2018 10:41 AM

And Dominic West's American accent is pretty good.

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by Anonymousreply 22December 6, 2018 10:43 AM

J.J. Field and Alessiandro Nivola are good. Renee Zellweger was too posh by half but was fine.

I think most British actors aren’t that good at American. Kate Winslet did an almost successful Australian in HOKY SMOKE! but her American accent keeps dropping out.

And Benedict Cumberbatch in Doctor Strange was terrible to make matters worse he had the vocal fry of a valley girl. Male speakers of RP have vocal fry, it it doesn’t translate well to American men.

by Anonymousreply 23December 6, 2018 10:51 AM

Dominic West's accent was notably bad. The actor who played Carcetti had a perfect accent. I didn't know he wasn't American. I think he's Irish.

by Anonymousreply 24December 6, 2018 1:53 PM

There's only one thing worse than an American with a bad British accent: A Briton with a bad British accent.

by Anonymousreply 25December 6, 2018 2:08 PM

The Irish accent is very close to the American accent.

by Anonymousreply 26December 6, 2018 2:12 PM

Ellen Burstyn in Providence and Pack of Lies has an English accent so bad I kept waiting for the usual "Mother sent me to America for schooling" saving-face explanation, but it never came.

by Anonymousreply 27December 19, 2018 5:07 AM

I just wish American actors put more of a premium on speech and vocal training, let alone accents and dialogues. And I say that as an American who wants to see more American actors employed in our productions.

There are so many young people in TV, film, and even theatre whose voices make my ears bleed (assuming they're even audible).

by Anonymousreply 28December 19, 2018 5:29 AM

I find the British dialects so e-rhotic. I drop my shorts and my Rs.

by Anonymousreply 29December 19, 2018 5:32 AM

He's not a great actor overall but KJ Apa does a great American accent on Riverdale (he's from New Zealand)

by Anonymousreply 30December 19, 2018 5:45 AM

[quote]Aussies nail the American accent better than any.

They do seem to be. I just found out recently Eric Bana is Australian. And, as someone upthread pointed out, Rachel Griffiths' accent in "Six Feet Under" was unclockable.

by Anonymousreply 31December 19, 2018 6:11 AM

British accents are much more lively and expressive. American accents are monotone and boring so it makes sense that it's easier to replicate.

by Anonymousreply 32December 19, 2018 6:13 AM

Judy Davis nails it. Rachel Ward, not so much.

by Anonymousreply 33December 19, 2018 6:13 AM

The Brits still want us to apologize constantly for Dick van Dyke's accent in "Mary Poppins."

I'm willing to, but only if they are willing to apologize constantly for Kenneth Branagh's accent in "Dead Again."

by Anonymousreply 34December 19, 2018 6:48 AM

Winona Ryder and Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's Dracula were the worst

by Anonymousreply 35December 19, 2018 6:36 PM

I used to teach Americans the (standard) English accent when I was at acting school there...we'd swap skills.

What they found hard was learning to not sound so enthusiastic about everything. I used to say "sound bored", (it's the key) even if you're excited.

Americans seem to think English people speak all "jolly" - all that pip-pip nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 36December 19, 2018 7:04 PM

R2, the dialect coach in OP’s video cites Hall’s as one of the very best British accents. So perhaps the natives you mock are better judges than you.

by Anonymousreply 37December 19, 2018 7:18 PM

R17, the video points out that British actors playing American parts are more likely to live in America and are more likely to have been trained in elocution at drama school. OP mischaracterizes the video. It doesn’t say Americans all suck at British accents.

by Anonymousreply 38December 19, 2018 7:23 PM

It couldn't have anything to do with the enormity of Americans leading the movie/tv industry since the beginning of time, could it?

Another OP dolt needing a good cunt punt.

R9's comment reveals the ignorance. R9 is most likely a disenfranchised, lower class fringe member of American society. Always throwing the US and fellow citizens under the bus out of frustration for their marginal surroundings and low end station in life. It's always someone else's fault.

R9 writes:

"Britons must be a deeply insecure people, who despite having all the wealth and power in the world, are still miserable, ignorant, violent and unhappy....although I could be confusing my countries/peoples."

Yeah, that would be it. Confused. And the ignorant, violent character trait you inscribe to the Britons belongs to their immigrant population of ME's and specifically Africans NOT indigenous Brits.

The truth hurts, we know. The USA would be the one having all of the wealth and power in the world, you envious, uneducated traitor.

by Anonymousreply 39December 19, 2018 7:45 PM

^ Out of her chill pills.

by Anonymousreply 40December 19, 2018 9:44 PM

Michael C Hall's accent in Safe was very good. It was a general 'Estuary English' accent but you could still tell there was something 'off' with it. It was impressive from an acting point of view but it wasn't completely convincing.

by Anonymousreply 41December 19, 2018 9:59 PM

I just listened to it in the trailer. He sounds like a Jewish guy from North London to me.

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by Anonymousreply 42December 19, 2018 10:09 PM

Eric Bana's Australian accent kept coming through in the Other Boleyn Girl, it was most distracting.

by Anonymousreply 43December 19, 2018 10:24 PM

At least Bana sounded more convincing in that movie than Natalie and Scarlett did....

by Anonymousreply 44December 19, 2018 10:28 PM