Nancy Reagan re-wore her Inaugural Gown to meet Princess Diana.

It's not even that great a gown. It's like something from the Golden Girls.

Clearly OP, it doesn't take much to annoy you.

A White House dinner…NOT a state dinner.

[quote]Why do such a thing?

She was doing what we'd called "branding" these days. She wore expensive gowns, got criticized for it, so made fun of herself and the criticism by performing "Second-Hand Rose" at a DC event, garnering her all sorts of praise from the compliant media.

From that point on, she re-wore gowns to prove just how relatable and down-to-earth she was.

Poor choice of dress. Accentuated her FUPA.

Of ALL the things to shade Nancy Reagan for!

Imagine Joe Biden in an inaugural gown!

Among a sea of things to hate, I grant grudging respect to Nancy Reagan for 2 things: her reknown for her skill at fellatio, 2. her style.

Reagan was no fool.

Of course, and wisely, she re-wore and didn't try too hard when Diana came to town. If there is any moment when you concede the spotlight, it's when you're going to be officially photographed, at a dressy soiree, next to then Earth's Most Famous Woman, Beauty and Fashion Plate.

You’re right OP. That dress! It’s maddening & a slap in the face to all Americans. Hold onto this ire for at least another 37 years.

I hear you OP. People are complaining about the Ukraine war, climate change and democracy under pressure, but nobody cares about the really important things anymore. I'm still reeling from the incident when Sadat and Begin came to Camp David, and President Carter used the salad fork for the shrimp cocktail. Not ONE congressional investigation about it. Still gets me nightmares.

R12- What do you expect from a Peanut 🥜 Farmer 👩‍🌾?

Thank God Hillary didn't wear her inaugural gowns again... Hillary had a lot of strenghts. Dressing isn't among them. The first looked like Linda Bloodworth Thomas designs are Arlette's of Little Rock.

The second... looks like Nancy's.

And just in case you think she improved with age

Very Dorothy Zbornak, indeed.

But to be annoyed about it 40 years later..

As an aside, since its founding, Brooks Brothers has dressed every single president save two.

First Jimmy Carter, who in an effort to stay humble, bought off the rack.

Secondly, Ronald Reagan, who had much fancier Hollywood clothiers.

Let me redirect OP's pain by giving him advice that will also give him something new to be annoyed about.

Nothing like an earworm to take your mind off your troubles! xo

Hey, at least she's not transgender like some black First Lady I know.

OP, do you have nothing better to do with your time?

[quote]2. her style

One word, r10...knickers.

R8 did he suck a lot of dick too?

Nan smartly wore a color to hide cum stains. She usually could swallow it all, but why takes chances at a fancy dinner?

Miss OP needs to get out into the real world more often.

Nancita needed a full length gown to hide those unfortunate piano legs

She was obviously an old lady when that photo was taken, OP.

What did you expect her to wear?

A strapless gown?

JFC.

[quote]A strapless gown?

This is as far as she'd go, r28...

I love how cowardly bigots, like r21, don't want to just own it and hide behind Joan Rivers.

Had Frank Sinatra slurped up Nancy’s pussy earlier in the day?

I can smell the old lady pee from OP’s photo through the screen.

" It was annoying to me then and it annoys me now."

OP is like 90 years old at least.

OP is annoyed because my dress still fit me like a glove. He can’t even get into last season’s caftan.

Nancy went through periods when she was under withering criticism for her expensive clothes, so she would have to make the occasional bombastic display of frugality. As soon as things calmed down, she went back to her old excesses. Like when she was told she was in violation of income tax rules for “borrowing” designer creations for free and then “returning” them after one use (and not declaring their value on her taxes). That was about a 2 news cycle scandal. After it died down, it was discovered that she was doing it again! Her spokesperson made what I consider to be one of the greatest non-confessions of regret I have ever heard: “Mrs. Reagan made her little rule [to stop borrowing designer dresses] and she broke her little rule.”

OP here. R10 has the right response as I recall it, but it is just such a cop out. I mean she couldn't find another dress?

And yes, I know it has been decades but what can I say - I remember everything - it makes my 93 year old Mother crazy when I remind her of past slights and conversations of which she has no recollection.....or if she does remember them she cannot believe I would bring them up lol.

You just sound like more fun with every post.

Nan was known as the BJ Queen of Hollywood. Prince Charles thought he might have a chance. Nan knew he might cause an international scene, which would embarrass Ronnie. So she did the only thing she knew. She put on the dress which still had inaugural stink on it as Maureen hadn’t gotten around to doing the laundry yet. Prince Charles took one whiff and said, “Cor Blimey, even Thatcher makes an effort.”

The OP is still irritated nearly 40 eyars later that the pill-popping, child-beating adulteress who ran our country by astrology for eight years rewore an inaugural gown ?

Really ? This is what gives homosessuals a bad name.

She was a whore, darlin'.

It could be worse. At least she didn't sew it.

She recycled it - just like all her grandchildren's Christmas Gifts.

R5 Remember the White House china scandal?

Who cares about that wizened ol' Hollywood cum guzzler!?

At least it wasn't the Wilma Flintstone number from the first Inaugural Ball.

"OMG, did you smell her pussy?"

Diana hated the Reagans. The President screwed up during his remarks at the dinner and called her “Princess David,” then “Princess Diane.”

The royal family couldn’t stand Nancy Reagan and thought she was an obvious American. She showed up in England in 1981 for the wedding with more security and attendants than the Queen.

She was invited to one of Charles’ polo games and showed ip with a large motorcade, in heels which sunk into the mud while the Queen came to the same event driving an old station wagon and wearing a babushka.

Why would she be expected to own another high quality dress? The Reagans were not rich until after Ronnie left office and he charged an arm and a leg for speaking engagements.

That was part of the problem when she was in office--because she had champagne tastes but they could only afford rosé, she kept borrowing dresses loaned to her and not returning them and got in a lot of trouble.

Charles loved Nancy, at least per Kitty Kelley.

Nancy loved that dress because it was wash and wear.

What could one expect from such nouveau riche trash as that Reagan woman?

[quote] Of course, and wisely, she re-wore and didn't try too hard when Diana came to town. If there is any moment when you concede the spotlight, it's when you're going to be officially photographed, at a dressy soiree, next to then Earth's Most Famous Woman, Beauty and Fashion Plate.

Yes, Nancy knew there was no way she could outshine Diana, so she stepped aside, wisely.

OP is obviously joking about still being bothered. This is what DL is about, being bothered by a 1980s alleged fashion misstep.

I like Hillary's gowns, upthread (except for what she wore at Chelsea's wedding). My expectations for Hillary aren't that high, but the Designing Woman gown fit her well and I did like the color. The later, off-white gown also fit her well and looked good, IMO.

I forgot how thin Hillary was back then.

Did it still have Ole Blue Eyes cum stains on it?

THROAT GOAT vs BILLION DOLLAR WHORE

on the next season of FEUD

[quote] next to then Earth's Most Famous Woman, Beauty and Fashion Plate

Diana wasn’t really that until the 1990s.

You're not me and you never will be dear.

[quote] The royal family couldn’t stand Nancy Reagan and thought she was an obvious American.

Wait. Come again? Did they actually expect her to pretend otherwise??

Joan Didion did one of the great all-time hatchet jobs on Nancy.

Mommie really was shameless in her aping of JBKO. She even had the same artist as Jackie's paint her official portrait.

Cunt also arranged to have Ronnie assassinated.

[quote] Nancita needed a full length gown to hide those unfortunate piano legs.

Nancita needed a full length gown to hide her knee pads.

I can understand why the Queen didn't like Nancy. As much as I detested Nancy R, she put the Queen to shame with her fashion sense and sense of style. She made the Queen look like the farmer's wife instead of royalty.

R44,OP here. I also remember the China controversy vividly. I also remember the press went to former First Lady Rosalyn Carter for a comment and she bitchily said something like "Well I always found it nice to mix and match the china in the White House."

.....as if it was a Sunday church social. Dear God if only Datalounge was around back then.....

I remember (around the same time as the china kerfuffle) when she spoke out against gun control and said she owned a "tiny little gun."

Strange for a noted clothes 🐴 to purposely rewear a gown to such a highly visible function.

some kind of passive aggressive gesture

R63 Why does Jackie have Nosferatu fingers and Nancy have no arms?

At R63, the Jackie portrait looks like the cover of an old romance novel. Colors are washed-out. No, you don't have to get hyper-realistic, but it looks more like an underpainting than a completed painting.

[quote]Why do such a thing? Can you imagine the outrage if Hillary Clinton or Jill Biden did that today?

I understand the Jill Biden comparison, but why would Hillary Clinton be re-wearing an inaugural gown to a White House function as first lady "today"?

[quote] As much as I detested Nancy R, she put the Queen to shame with her fashion sense and sense of style. She made the Queen look like the farmer's wife instead of royalty.

I never thought of Nancy Reagan as having great fashion sense. QE became matronly-looking at a relatively young age. I don't see QE being jealous of another woman for being thinner and more fashionable than herself. IMO, if QE did dislike Nancy, it was due to personality conflicts, not jealousy about looks.

Nancy returned dresses she was gifted to Nordstrom.

Nordstrom took it back and refunded her money although they didn’t sell those dresses

Nancy liked expensive things that doesn't mean she had good taste

Those Reagans are the prototype of maga.

My favorite Nancy Reagan story was from her stepson, Michael Reagan. He came to live with his father and stepmother as a teen. Kids Patti and Ron Jr. had their own rooms. Michael had to sleep on a couch in the den. Then he noticed Nancy and his dad planning a new addition of one room. He assumed it was for him. But it was an extra room for Nancy, and he continued to sleep on the couch in the den.

Nancy had a regifting closet at the White House full of all the crap she had been given over the years that wasn’t good enough for her, which she would give to others.

Michael Reagan visited the White House and his toddler son’s teddy bear was left behind. It was put in the closet and given back to the grandson as his Christmas present that year.

The Reagans stayed at the Waldorf Astoria when they went to New York. The first time they stayed there, the manager put jelly beans (Reagan’s favorite candy) in a Baccarat crystal jar.

Nancy was on her to see Ron Jr., who had just eloped. Realizing she hadn’t purchased a wedding gift, she took the Baccarat jar and gave it to them as a wedding gift. After that, the hotel only used plastic for the Reagans.

That is not a Nancy thing, that is a Ronald thing. Ronald permitted his son to be mistreated by his wife.

Didn't Ronald call Nancy "Mommy"? She was the one who got him into astrology.

R80 Of course, Reagan was a shit to let his 2nd wife do that to his own son. But that doesn't mean she wasn't also a shit. He was her stepson and he was living with them. She had no empathy, treated him like a second-class citizen, and it was all about her.

R79 That's a great story about the Waldorf. But I would like to find out how anyone discovered the jar came from the Waldorf. Unless Nancy or RR told someone, who would know they gave it as a wedding gift?

Management would not know where their property wound up but they know when and what is missing after taking inventory in between guest visits.

Everything is inventoried, including the towels, bed sheets, robes and ashtrays.

No gag reflex and stomach for splooge is a talent.

R85 Yeah, of course. I didn't ask how or if the Waldorf noticed the jar was missing or who took it. That was obvious. I was just wondering how anyone found out that it was given as a wedding gift to their son.

The PR director of the Waldorf told that story to Kitty Kelley r83.

Which one of these bitches is the alpha female? Nancy Reagan wasn't having it.

R88 It sounds like it. How would the PR director of the Waldorf know what Nancy did with the jar? It sounds like BS.

I had no idea we have a US Botanic Garden. It's really small, Near the Capitol.

When Nixon was president, bitches condemned his wife for wearing a wool coat instead of fur. The White House explained that coat was "serviceable."

Today the same bitches would attack the president's wife for wearing an animal.

At R89, Babs Bush looks like the alpha. I feel sorry for Rosalyn Carter, looking at her. Apparently, Jimmy was hard to get along with and she ends up on the outs, as well. Hillary & Lady Bird seem very cohesive.

R92 Maybe you're talking about something else, but Nixon's speech about Pat having a cloth coat - the famous Checkers Speech - was when he was VP under Eisenhower. It had to do with Nixon denying using a slush fund for personal expenses and pointed out his wife had a "good Republican cloth coat" not a fur coat.

Hillary can talk with anyone and has respect for American protocol. Babs and Nancy clashed, loathed one another.

I will always remember her for her grace and dignity. 😂

Nancy had the gimmies and I totally believe that Bacarrat crystal went missing during their stay at the Waldorf but where it ended up is another story.

Greedy, materialistic snob.

" Greed is good", totally 1980s. Proto maga filth

Well, her own daughter Patti had her uterus ripped out in her 20s out to make sure she never reproduced. That's all you need to know about Nancy.

R99, r97,r95,r94, r92, r90

Trump wore Brooks Brothers? Surely their tailors are better than what we saw on Trump's ample frame.

[quote]IMO, if QE did dislike Nancy, it was due to personality conflicts, not jealousy about looks.

The Queen and Prince Philip loved the Reagans, largely because of their shared love of horses.

Nancy Reagan and her affinity for Adolfo & Galanos was a huge deal in the early ‘80s. We had just come off the casual 1970s and Rosalynn, Betty, Pat, and Lady Bird had not been glamorous. Jackie of course was glamorous but she was also youthful and approachable (during the administration) and her vitality and taste was reflected in her wardrobe. The press also loved her.

Nancy, meanwhile, was old (60) and a snob. The press despised her and knew her back story. Nancy was incredibly phony and thirsty, dating back to her early childhood when her mother married up, to the doctor who would later adopt Nancy.

Trump claims to wear custom made Brioni but who knows.

Nan practically cleaned out the Gucci in Beverly Hills right before Ron was inaugurated and she would have to report gifts- not that it ended up stopping the greedy cunt.

Nancy Reagan and Barbara Bush were two of the most spectacular cunts of the 20th Century.

Barbara Bush and Her 'Nemesis' Nancy Reagan: The 'Real' Story About Their Difficult Relationship

[quote] Didn't Ronald call Nancy "Mommy"?

Actually, it was "Mommie Poo Pants."

Say what you want about the Reagan’s politics, but they had class. Nancy knew how to entertain, and she knew how to dress. I know that Jill Biden, and Michelle Obama were more modern, but still by comparison, Nancy had miles more class than either of them, especially when it came to state occasions and formal wear,. Of course, they came from Hollywood. Nancy knew how to do her face, and she knew how to glam up appropriately and that no doubt helped. I think in terms of Presidential majesty, The Reagan’s were the last classic and classy first couple. They weren’t Camelot, but they had their own glittering shining era they reigned over. Who can forget some of those fancy state dinners, Charles and Diana in full drag and the White House decked out? Diana dancing with Travolta in a glittering East Room while princes and presidents and everyone around stepped back and let them have the floor?

R100 can give us the Full Particulars on Patti losing her uterus?

Babs was born to a wealthy family as was her husband. The Reagans were showbiz people who grew up with limited resources

[quote]r36 Nancy went through periods when she was under withering criticism for her expensive clothes

The criticism was that she accepted the designers’ clothes for free.

R111, the Reagans were the epitome of ZERO class, a word I dislike.

Nancy especially was a climbing grifter. Wearing an expensive "borrowed" gown, does not a chic woman make.

Her treatment of her children, and those she considered beneath her was contemptible. Nancy acted awfully grand for a woman that was pregnant when she trapped Ronnie.

Google some pictures of her decoration of the WH family quarters. The rooms look like someone vomited red.

80s excess at its worst describes them. Not class.

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R112, above is the tubal ligation story, sorry it's the Daily Mail. All the others were paywalled.

God, I love this thread as much as I despise Nancy.

Yes, I'd read that Nancy's abuse of Patti as a child was so open and so awful that a pal or two from his so-called "kitchen cabinet" took him aside and expressed concerns to him. Ronnie was too much of doofus and by that point so dazzled and reliant on his wife that he brushed them off.

Nancy seemed to harbor a simmering resentment against her daughter from the moment of Patti's difficult birth. Kitty Kelly relays a story (told to her by Patti, IIRC correctly) of how Nancy's blamed her neonate daughter for a difficult, traumatic birth. She claimed that Patti REFUSED to come out by performing the anatomically impossible -- grabbing on to her mother's rib and absolutely refusing to come out. And she held it over her daughter's head for years until Patti was older and figured out her mother was full of shit.

Thank you for posting that article, r109. I was shocked to see it was from 2019. It contains more than 10 paragraphs and goes into some depth -- the type of article People used to run before the '90s. Of course, it's from a promotion for the new biography.

Recycled dress nothing, Nancy Reagan would wear soiled panties whenever called upon to do a PSA !

"Say what you want about the Reagan’s politics, but they had class."

Is that typo? Because saying the had "crass" would have made more sense.

Also, I loathe the Reagans with a passion that any gay man who lived during the AIDS era would be very familiar with, but she didn't want her husband assasinated. Why would she? She would have been a has been first lady and quickly forgotten and had no cachet in Washington whatsoever.

Don't you know that the man who tried to kill Reagan was the son of GHW Bush's friend?

Don't you find it weird that a would be presidential assasin was not only left alive, but was sentenced to an asylum instead of a prison, and was eventually released?

The Reagan assasination was an attempted coup attempt by the vice-president. It failed and Bush's CIA connections kept him "clean."

R119 here. Apparently I read story about the adviser concerned about Patti's well-being in that DM article, but I mixed it up.

[QUOTE]But one of Reagan's financial backers, Holmes Tuttle witnessed Nancy's vicious blows on the little girl's head and ears and told her to never do that again in front of him. If he told Ronnie, it had no impact. The abuse continued..

BTW, did DL's "vicious face slapping" originate from Nancy's favorite child-rearing technique?

[QUOTE][R5] Remember the White House china scandal?

Oh, yes. What was particularly awful is that it occurred at the same time that the USDA classified ketchup as a vegetable (and pickle relish, too, but that's forgotten) as a budget slashing measure.

My mom, a lifelong Democrat had Nancy's number from when Ronnie was CA governor. Nancy declared the Governor's mansion a firetrap, and had a tacky new place built that looked like a Best Western Plus.

Governor Brown subsequently refused to live in it and I believe it was eventually torn down.

Ron, Nancy, and the entire Kitchen Cabinet were disgusting homophobic trash.

Class! - that poster must be drunk, high, stupid or all three.

Does anyone else but me remember that Joan Rivers considered herself a friend of Nancy's AND gave a tribute to her at the Republican convention!

[quote]R117 article. [italic] “The First Lady was a 'mommy dearest' who popped sedatives like candy and started viciously slapping Patti around - in the face, head and ears - at age eight, a practice that continued daily for years” [/italic]

Patti’s face was slapped. Viciously.

[quote]r119 Nancy's blamed her neonate daughter for a difficult, traumatic birth. She claimed that Patti REFUSED to come out

The baby was psychic and knew what awaited her.

Interesting that neither of the bio kids had children.

I'm thrilled that the kids were able to sell the house after Nancy died for $15 million. They earned every penny.

At least it wasn't a "for reasons well known to them".

I'd kove to take a steaming dump on her grave.

Probably still had Prince Phillip stains somewhere on it.

Nancy was such a cold and nasty woman.

"The statue of Liberty has AIDS. They don't know if she got it from the mouth of the Hudson or the Staten Island ferry". A Bob Hope joke (another pig).

Nancy, Ronnie and that entire group considered this humor.

Such class and elegance 😂

Nancy did not showcase her FUPA (the moron that said that is... well... a moron). She has a little pot belly, not a FUPA.

Native Sacramentan here. R124 - my whole family was like your mom. They had her number, too. As a little kid my father and uncle would drive me by their Fabulous Forties mansion and say "that's where those Reagans live". My uncle co-owned a popular restaurant restaurant frequented by legislators and other political people and he heard scuttlebutt. It wasn't about the mansion on 16th and I being a firetrap. It was about living too close to undesirables.

Sacramento's old skid row was slowly demolished and I-5 was constructed over it in the late '60s/early '70s, so the cheap SROs were gone. People were displaced and moved to areas within a short walking distance to the mansion, some only three or four blocks away. Ironically, Reagan's funding cuts as president eliminated many, if not most, SROs and owners sold the buildings to developers, causing the initial wave of homeless mentally ill whose SSI checks couldn't cover rents elsewhere. God, I loathed the Reagans.

Fun fact -- Nancy gleefully mocked the former First Lady, Bernice Brown (Jerry’s mom and a Berkeley grad at 19) as tacky when she found the toenails of a clawed bathtub in the mansion painted red. She didn't stop to think the preteen daughter might have done.

Your description of the new mansion as a Best Western Plus is spot on. Nearly everyone hated it. It must have mortified Nancy who took a hands-on approach through all phases, or so it was reported. Interestingly, there are only three or four pictures online. It's that bad.

^bad editing. The fun fact paragraph should have been last.

Nancy was a whore. May she do her casket dance in hell for eternity.

Dressing up in expensive clothing that you did not pay for doesn't make you classy.

Reagan owed everything to his wife's family - he switched political parties because I'm sure they promised to get their rich friends behind him. Which did happen. His adoration of her was apparently genuine but it also had a lot to do with how good a match it was for him, at a time when his career was going down the toilet. Ronnie also sold out the actors of SAG when he was President of the guild - a long story, but he lost them their residuals, at a time every old movie was starting to show up on TV.

He made a deal with MCA (Lew Wasserman) that circumvented a rule that said talent agencies couldn't go into production. MCA did a lot for him in return. In the early 60s when he was called before Congress to testify about the sahdy, illegal deal, he conveniently couldn't remember anything despite heavy questioning that got downright snide.. You can read about it - he was a real weasel long before he was ever Governor, or President.

The ole jinetera still dropped to her knees when she smelt rabo.

R135, great post. I found a picture of Nancy's monstrosity online- it was sold, not torn down and as ugly as I remembered.

All that's missing is an attached Denny's.

“Taj Mahal” executive mansion

I was never a fan of Nancy Reagan, but I give her credit for recognizing Michael Reagan as the gross, creepy loser he was and treating him accordingly. So there was that about her.

Their White House bedroom with the birds attacking wallpaper was bizarre.

How does one determine a child aged 7-12 is a "gross, creepy loser?"

Photo to Regan bedroom redone by Nancy

That's creepy as hell, r148.

R145 Well she could have just not lived with him. If you're taking care of children and teens you shouldn't be giving them an inferiority complex when their worst crime is being the offspring of your husband and his ex-wife. But maybe that's just me.

Yikes. Nancy's taste was even more vial.

R111 I remember watching that Diana and Charles dinner on the news. I watched it alone on a TV in the cafeteria at Beth Israel Hospital where my BF was very ill with his first pneumonia because of AIDS. He had pneumonia 3 more times before he died the next spring. We often talked about the classy Ron and Nancy and what an inspiration they were to us in this dark hour of sadness, fear and death. I'm sure it was their good leadership, empathy, shining character and glittering Hollywood class that gave my bf the strength to stay alive those months.

R152, please take your trolling somewhere else because no one who lived through those times believes you.

No-one believes me that we hated Ron and Nancy for their ostentatious, murderous and vile lack of empathy and support? R111 can die in a a THOUSAND grease fires for his appalling troll on a gay site. Or are you blind to my scathing sarcasm, R153?

I saw it as sarcasm r154....how could anyone take it any other way.

Sarcasm is completely misunderstood these days, it was lost when everyone decided to flush critical thinking in favor of instant reactions to whatever has been farted out on twitter or facebook or wherever

Amazing that 2 of the Reagan's kids wrote tell all books about them. Even joan only had one kid trash her

Maureen and Michael Reagan never stood a chance with that wimp as their father and a ball-busting cunt mother and ball-busting cunt stepmother.

This is how Nancy revealed Michael’s true parentage to him as a teenager .She’s no Carol Brady. From the Kitty Kelley book:

“When Nancy got ahold of my bad report card, she verbally ripped into me, concluding with, ‘You’re not living up to the Reagan name or image, and unless you start shaping up, it would be best for you to change your name and leave the house,’” he said.

“‘Fine,’ I said, ‘why don’t you just tell me the name I was born with so at least when I walk out the door I’ll know what name to use.’

“‘Okay, Mr. Reagan, I’ll do just that.’”

A week later, Nancy confronted her stepson with the information that his given name was John I. Flaugher and that he was born out of wedlock, his father an army sergeant who went overseas and never returned.

Michael said he was rocked by the heartless way he received the news, especially from a woman who had been abandoned as a child and later adopted. “I guess I expected Nancy to be more sympathetic,” he said years later.”

I still find it shocking.

She should be careful about wearing dresses when performing...sucking activities. Trust me.

Nancy Reagan really gives me Joan Crawford vibes. But with less cleaning and more sucking.

Nancy was pregnant when she married Ronnie.

She's a cocksucking whore.